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Heavenly confirmed ministry-2


                Heavenly Confirmed Ministry Indications - Part 2



This page below is written in the first person by an agent of Heaven's Worship Restoration Ministries to show that if God intervenes to bring healing, insight, and confirmation to that person, and confirms it at the library with a complicated 333 orchestration, HE must really be the one who has his hand on that agent for the ministry that he is involved in for GOD.

He considers these divine orchestrations, described below, that took place at a church, and in the public library, when he was finishing some writing that he was doing about these orchestrations, to be as spectacular as being filled with the Holy Spirit and with power at a John Wimber meeting  many years ago,  which is described on another page of being filled with the Holy Spirit on this website.  Please look at it later.  He writes about it all below:

I was asked to leave a production facility ( called a church ) some months back in time. I gave the younger production manager ( called a pastor) that I was in contact with, an offer that I would only return to the Sunday service about once every three months, but being an immature pastor and/or hireling shepherd (John 10:12), who cares more about what pleases man out of fear that income may be affected, rather than putting first what tickles the heart of God, and putting the church's finances in God's hands, I was banned from any future Sunday services. Why? In my opinion of this, my praise movements did not fit into what he perceived as the culture of the worship production of that Almighty Facility! IMO, they were insignificant to him. His words and actions towards and against my ministry told me that! 

Some weeks prior to that I was asked to leave a young adult worship service on a Friday night by that same production manager (healing pastor?).  Truthfully, I went to that service reluctantly because of my age, and also went because I saw the start up of these services, as a fruit of my ministry at that church.  I had told the senior pastor already by letter that when he gets Friday night worship services going I would be at every one. So I felt that I needed to be there. I needed to keep my word to this pastor.  I thought that they would eventually extend these services to the rest of the congregation. I was not asked to leave because of my praise movements, but because of my age. By the way, I had considered my ministry at this church to be the most successful ministry of my career because the senior pastor was copying my worship movements, extending the worship time during the Sunday services etc. The Senior pastor by his actions showed me by his actions that he respected / accepted my ministry.

The hurtful encounter of being asked not to attend Sunday worship services, took place with the younger production manager ( younger "pastor" ), by phone text on a Saturday evening, and I could not sleep that night. He told me I could not change the worship culture of the church among other things.  However, I still attended a church the following Sunday morning where I carried on my ministry sleepless, but the lack of sleep did affect my bodily praise expressions.  I had no idea at this time that God was going to prepare an orchestration for me the next Sunday that would bring healing to me and show me that God was on my side .

The next Sunday I drove to a church, which does not judge a man's or woman's  praise expressions, therefore, I have felt both love and acceptance there. In that congregation I know that I will never be kicked out for the praise expressions that are done in me that glorify God through my body (1 Corinthians 6:20 b). On that church's  website, they even tell the readers that they will not judge praise expressions, but allow people to creatively praise God.  Hallelujah ! This church was a healing clinic for me this crucial Sunday that I was there. 

Therefore, I have no fear in that congregation of being confronted and controlled by any pastors and I have no fear of being told not to ever come back on a Sunday.  On the contrary, I know that my heavenly creative praise expressions are not judged there.  As I drove to this church I had no idea that God had supernaturally orchestrated the sermon, the people who would pray for me after the sermon, and even order my steps before the worship service to gain insight.  All worked together to bring me 3 :  1) healing, 2) confirmation, and 3 )insight.

Also, 3 divine orchestrations occurred that Sunday at this church:  1) Before the sermon my steps were guided by God to ask questions of a man who happened to be the father-in-law of the one who was hurtful to me. I did not know this fact until after the answers were given to the questions I asked of him. My questions to this man were orchestrated by God. I asked a question that brought forth an answer that amazed/shocked me.  In the course of talking to this man, he told me that his daughter and her husband were pastors at a church (the one I call a production facility), and I asked him what THEIR NAMES are.  He responded with only the name of his youngest daughter. The omission of her husband said something to me.

The next divine orchestration that occurred that Sunday was 2) the sermon delivered by the sister-in-law of the younger "production manager" who was at a "church" miles away. What was her sermon about?  It was about how to deal with hurtful words that have been given to you by other Christians. The sermon is titled: "Wounded And Victorious".  It was the perfect sermon I needed to set the stage to experience healing at the end. It was another component that showed me that God loves me, had orchestrated the Sunday healing service for me, and HE is behind the worship ministry that has been entrusted to me by HIM (GOD).

The next divine orchestration was seen in two of the 3 people who prayed for me for healing after the sermon was over. The first person to pray for me was the father-in-law of that younger production manager ( the immature and/or hireling pastor). His son-in-law had hurt me, and his eldest daughter had just given a healing sermon, and here he is praying for me too. FAMILY! Remember, I told you that before the worship service began,  I had talked to this man and found out that it was his son-in-law who was the one who had hurtfully told me that I could not come back for a worship service again on any Sunday morning. But now the family was bringing healing to me. "Be a healing family and not an institution" is what this healing congregation is all about and what true churches should be all about too. Production facilities can treat people like numbers, that can be discarded, and not like family members.

The third (3) person to pray for me  was the worship pastor at this church who did not even know me and did not know about my ministry.  I did not tell him what happened at the other "church".  He just laid his hands on me, and the "electrical grid" in my body came alive. This must have had something to do with healing taking place in my spirit, soul, and body.  His prayer also  contained a word of knowledge. He said during his prayer: "No matter what they are saying about you, know that God sees you as a finely polished jewel".  This was clearly a word of knowledge that told me that God sees my worship expressions in a positive way (finely polished like a jewel in God's eyes) compared to anyone who would judge them wrongly like King David's wife Michal did.  The "they" in that word of knowledge are some production leaders ( the younger production manager is one ) at the production facility ( loving church? ) that I was asked to leave, and also include anyone spreading gossip......

All I can say is WOW.  God really intervened and orchestrated this all for me and again confirmed to me that he has given to me the ministry I have been actively involved with. 
3 things were given to me, 3 orchestrations took place, and 3 people prayed for me: 333. Not only that, but I was orchestrated to look at the computer clock when I finished the previous sentence that is in bold black,  and the clock said:  3:33   WOW WOW WOW !!!  AMAZING ministry confirmation !!!!  This is all blowing my mind because God must really love me to do all this. The chances of it being a coincidence of seeing 3:33 on the computer clock right when I finished writing a sentence having to do with 333 is 1 in 720. Of course it was not a coincidence, but was divinely orchestrated like the previous things written about.

The chance of having the above happen by coincidence is actually more than 1 in 720 because God has spoken to me using 3:33 on the clock many times and has used this number communication to say: "I hear your prayer" or "we are still connected" or "I am pleased with your worship" and similar communications. The fact that it has been used by God before makes it highly likely that God arranged things in my schedule that day so that I would be working on the sentence above that reads: 3 things were given to me, 3 orchestrations took place, and 3 people prayed for me: 333, and God caused me to look at the clock just as I finished writing that sentence in order to see 3:33 on the clock thus confirming he is in it all.

I have talked to other men and women of God whom God has also given 3:33 on the clock etc. to as a way to speak to them.  The reason we do not read anything in the Bible about this is because digital clocks were not created yet, and our God is an amazing creator who will not be placed inside of a scriptural box. The minute we do that God will break out of that box every time. God uses numbers to construct history, and HE can use numbers to speak to us if he wants to. Read the book by Gordon Lindsay:  "God's Plan of the Ages" and see God's mathematics at work in constructing history. WOW!!!

I forgive the younger production manager at the worship production facility described on this page. I also forgive and pray for all production managers, who are called pastors, at the production facility I discussed on this page. I pray that they would become true healing pastors and not place the rules of an institution above situations where love needs to be exercised. I pray that their production facility would turn into a true church. I pray that they would not be motivated by what they think will bring money into their "church", but will be motivated to embrace what tickles the heart of God, and will instead trust God to bring in the people chosen to be there, and deliver the finances that are needed for that church.

I would like to comment further on being kicked out of that young adult worship service before it even started.  I have a friend who was a youth pastor during his life, and he told me after I told him about being kicked out of it: "I can't believe that they asked you to leave that worship service."  I also had a young adult from that church come up to me and tell me basically this: "What you do in your ministry, being in your generation, is encouraging to those of us who are in my generation."  He was talking about my creative praise movements.  I responded:  Yeah, if that old guy can do it, you can do it too. He also told me that the worship culture in that "church" was definitely changing.  So, you can see from that feedback that it was wrong for the younger production manager to kick me out of that young adult service. I should have been allowed to stay for that evening at least to be an example. 

I am going to give you some of the reasons why I was asked not to attend worship services on Sunday anymore: Showing up in places where I have not been invited and do not belong was one of the reasons given for being asked to leave. The one described in the second paragraph above (read it again) was most likely on that list of reasons when it should not have been if you look again at my reason for being at that young adult service. Please read paragraph two above again, so you can clearly see I did nothing wrong and I was not acting in rebellion, and furthermore was not acting as one who was making poor choices.

I assume another one on that list is showing up at worship practice.  The production managers did not know that I had been invited by the worship pastor to come to worship practice on Thursdays.  So the very young relationship with the worship pastor at that church was destroyed by me being banned from Sunday worship services. She had invited me to come to Thursday worship practices any Thursday I wanted to. But that freedom was taken away by the controlling actions of the production managers (called pastors) which of course poisoned her against me !!! I wonder what kind of chastisement that God had or has in store for a pastor or two in that "church"? UPDATE:  See end of page to find chastisement.

In his wrong rebuke to me (1 Timothy 5:1) by email, the immature "pastor" told me that I can't change the worship culture of his church. I responded that this is what my ministry is all about: Bringing the worship culture of Heaven to earth.  I told him that I hope that every church I choose to worship in, is affected positively by my ministry of creative praise. You can see that he is hostile toward what I am doing in my ministry.  This is unlike the senior pastor at that church who acted upon the encouraging teaching I sent to him by letters.

Another reason given to me by that immature younger production manager for being asked not to attend Sunday Services is for the "health of the congregation".  This is a disguised reason as the "health of the congregation" is really his worry about "money people" being turned away by my creative praise expressions.  I have had feedback in the past by people in churches that they like my creative praise expressions. But there could be visiting people that may be turned away because they do not like it. This is the thinking of a hireling "pastor".
My advice: Put what tickles the heart of God first, and trust God to bring into the  church those people that God has chosen to be in that congregation. Get rid of worldly strategies.

IMHO that younger and immature production manager is very insecure because he lost his position as "pastor" at a satellite church, and had to come back to the main church to do a job. So I think he is making himself feel good about himself by looking for any way he can to make a good showing of doing something to help the church financially. But he is poking a stick in the eye of God by attacking me and my ministry. He is putting himself and his family in danger of the consequences of God's chastisement and what that may result in financially. 
Michal, King David's wife, was barren the rest of her life, after rebuking David for his praise!

I believe also, that because the younger production manager lost his job as head pastor of that former satellite church, he was trying to keep the authority that he had as a senior pastor. It is very possible that he acted alone in telling me that I could not return to a Sunday service again. Very possible that he still embraced decision making as a senior pastor of my situation, when he really should have allowed the real senior pastor to be the final decision maker about me and my relationship to the Sunday morning worship service at that church.

I believe strongly, that if the younger production manager, was not there in that "church", I could sometime in the future get together with the senior pastor and come to an agreement of being able to be at a Sunday service once every three months and no more. This is what I would ask for. Because that senior pastor had been so open to my ministry, even copying my worship movements, he lengthened the worship service time of praise on Sunday mornings in response to my encouragement to do so,  and probably was behind getting the young adult worship services going again etc., I think I could persuade him to agree to what I will propose. He never had a rejecting attitude toward my ministry as the younger "pastor" had or has.  When he asked me not to be at a second service on Easter Sunday of 2025, after I ministered already at the first service, I knew where he was coming from, and I complied, while knowing that he had always shown respect to my ministry.  :-)

I believe that the senior pastor would allow me back once every three months to minister during the worship time with another pastor in the church who is involved with the Spanish church, and has done praise ministry with me before at that "church". The ministry consists of being examples of praise on the floor in front of the worship team on stage. The church can see us being examples.  This is part of the ministry that God has called me to, besides the teaching ministry from this website, and letters I write to leaders of churches that encourage them in this and that matter related to praise in their church.  To God be the Glory !!!  AMEN

UPDATE on 3/29/2026 - Looking at the website of that big church, I see that the younger and immature pastor, who came against me, now has the title of Pastor stripped from him. He is still pictured in the group of elders. I do not think he even belongs in that group as he has a lot of growing up to do.  In a paragraph above on this web page I wrote: "I wonder what kind of chastisement that God had or has in store for a pastor or two in that 'church'?" This is the visible chastisement that I can see, and do not know if there is anything more going on in his life that would also be considered a chastisement. I pray that there would not be anymore chastisement for his wife's and family's sake. In Jesus name....  AMEN !!!!!!!


Compare this with Another Unrelated Church that I also Considered to be a Home Church



Another totally different congregation that I had considered a home church at the time of my first penning of this web page had passed the test of accepting my ministry or not accepting it, and because they had not come against my ministry, had accepted it, and had been a real family (not an institution) to each other, besides doing the things God had called them to do,  they had recently been given a larger church building by the Four Square Church, and that new church building includes a couple of income streams as I was told.  WOW !!! How vital it is to accept God's messengers for blessings to continue in a church. 

I truly believe that if this other church had come against my ministry like the other church, the same curse of barrenness given to Michal in the Bible, after she judged and criticized King David's lively and creative praise to the Lord, would have come upon that church, and they never would have been chosen to receive the new building and income streams. The pastor of this church is also not a hireling shepherd of his church. Having had a profitable business for many years besides being a pastor of that church helps greatly to keep him from being a hireling shepherd. He is not dependent on the congregation to take care of him and his wife. This keeps him from being a hireling pastor like many pastors are.


In part 1 of Heavenly Confirmed Ministry you will see that the mega church that Joel Osteen now leads was pastored by his father John Osteen years ago. I plan in the future to contact Joel Osteen and show him the videos of worship from Heaven taking place in his father's congregation many years ago. If that same praise from Heaven is not taking place in the congregation that Joel Osteen presently leads, I am sure that seeing what went on in his father's church will be an encouragement to him, and could result in Heaven's Praise Culture being established in that congregation again. I could encourage him to start up a Friday night Tabernacle of David worship service that takes place at least once a month at his church. Please go to part 1 of Heavenly Confirmed Ministry by clicking on the red words below and watch the worship taking place in John Osteen's church during the 1980's.  God is worthy of heavenly worship expressions on earth as the prayer of Jesus is fulfilled:  "Your will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven."

Heavenly Confirmed Ministry part 1 is on this page. >  CLICK HERE.



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  • Heaven's Worship On Earth
  • Heaven's Worship Restoration
  • Join This Ministry
  • Contact HWRM
    • About The Founder
  • The--Great--Commission to Teach Disciples to Worship
  • Heavenly Confirmed Ministry
  • Why Praise Dance?
    • Upper Body Praise Dancing
    • The Drum And Dance
    • Symbolic Dancing
  • Worship In Spirit And Truth
    • Being Filled With Holy Spirit
    • Call To Worship Prayers
    • Singing In The Spirit
    • God Centered Songs
    • Creative Praise Gifting
    • Spiritual Songs
    • Tabernacle of David - an Example for Today
  • Transactional Worship
  • Michals In Your Midst
  • Get Congregation Involved
    • Praise And Worship Team
    • Role Of Worship Pastor
    • Worship Not Entertainment
    • Easy Worship Songs
    • Crippled Sacrifices Of Praise
  • Valuing God's Presence
    • Extended Worship
    • 24 Hour Worship Centers
  • Worship In Heaven
    • Kat Kerr On Worship
  • Worship That Offends
  • Native American Worship
  • Free Church Restoration
  • The Restoration Of All Things
  • Keep Yourselves From Idols
  • Jeroboam Vs. Rehoboam